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CGCGCF#GC | CGCGCG♭GC C/G Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second - Guitar tuning, chords & scales

Description - C/G Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second

Ultra dissonant tuning, great for mathcore!

The "C/G Octave Tuning with Flat Fifth and Minor Second" is an extremely unique and aggressively dissonant tuning designed for pushing the boundaries of sonic texture. As the provided description notes, it is "Ultra dissonant tuning, great for mathcore!" This tuning is not for the faint of heart or those seeking traditional harmonies; it's a meticulously crafted soundscape for chaotic, angular, and heavy musical expressions.

Verbal Analysis

This tuning plunges the guitar into a realm of intense sonic friction, perfect for genres like mathcore, experimental metal, and avant-garde rock where dissonance is a core element. The foundation of C and G octaves provides a powerful, thick, and resonant low end, almost like a monstrous power chord spread across the lower strings. However, this stability is immediately challenged by the upper strings, which introduce jarring, tight intervals. The overall feel is one of controlled chaos – a deep, rumbling engine suddenly punctuated by sharp, grinding gears. It invites players to explore non-linear melodic ideas and heavy, percussive riffing that exploits the inherent tension between the notes.

Technical Analysis

The open notes of this 8-string tuning are:
String 8: C1
String 7: G1
String 6: C2
String 5: G2
String 4: C3
String 3: F#4
String 2: G3
String 1: C4

Intervallic relationships (from lowest to highest string in terms of standard string numbering, i.e., 8 to 1):

  • String 8 (C1) to String 7 (G1): Perfect 5th
  • String 7 (G1) to String 6 (C2): Perfect 4th
  • String 6 (C2) to String 5 (G2): Perfect 5th
  • String 5 (G2) to String 4 (C3): Perfect 4th
  • String 4 (C3) to String 3 (F#4): Augmented 4th (Tritone) + Octave. This is a massive leap in pitch, creating significant tension.
  • String 3 (F#4) to String 2 (G3): Minor 3rd (descending in pitch). Despite going from a lower string number to a higher one, the pitch actually drops by 3 semitones. This creates an incredibly tight and dissonant minor second interval when these two strings are played together (G3 is a minor second above F#4). This is the core of the tuning's "minor second" characteristic.
  • String 2 (G3) to String 1 (C4): Perfect 4th

This unique intervallic structure makes common major or minor open chords virtually impossible. Instead, the tuning is optimized for:

  • Thick Power Chords: The repeated C and G notes across the lower strings provide an extremely fat and resonant C5 power chord, easily extended by incorporating the Gs. This forms a bedrock for heavy riffing.
  • Extreme Dissonance and Clusters: The F#4 and G3 close together create a sharp, grinding minor second cluster in the upper register. When combined with the foundational C and G notes, it generates highly aggressive and unstable voicings, perfect for mathcore's signature sound. The F# (the "flat fifth" or tritone relative to C) provides a biting harmonic edge.
  • Angular Riffs and Leads: The unpredictable jumps in pitch and tight dissonances encourage players to develop highly articulated, percussive, and non-diatonic riffs and leads. The F#4 to G3 relationship, in particular, will lead to unusual fingerings and melodic contours.
It's a tuning designed to evoke tension, aggression, and intricate sonic textures, rather than melodic sweetness or conventional harmony.

How to Tune

To achieve the "C/G Octave with Flat Fifth and Minor Second" tuning from your current setup, carefully adjust each string as follows. Always be mindful of your instrument's tension and string gauge, especially when making significant pitch changes.

  • String 8 (C1): Tune down 1 semitone to C1.
  • String 7 (G1): Tune up 1 semitone to G1.
  • String 6 (C2): Tune up 1 semitone to C2.
  • String 5 (G2): Tune up 3 semitones to G2.
  • String 4 (C3): Tune up 3 semitones to C3.
  • String 3 (F#4): Tune up 4 semitones to F#4. Caution: Tuning a string up by 4 semitones significantly increases tension. Consider if a lighter gauge string is more suitable for this permanent pitch, or if your current gauge can safely handle the increased tension.
  • String 2 (G3): Keep as is; no change (0 semitones) to G3.
  • String 1 (C4): Tune up 1 semitone to C4.

Important Gauge Advice: When tuning strings more than 4 semitones (either up or down) from their intended standard pitch, it is strongly recommended to consider using a different string gauge. This helps maintain proper string tension, ensures accurate intonation, prolongs string life, and most importantly, prevents potential damage to your instrument's neck or bridge. For example, String 3 is tuned up 4 semitones; if this is a substantial change from its original pitch, a lighter gauge might be advisable for optimal performance and safety.



String 8: C1
String 7: G1
String 6: C2
String 5: G2
String 4: C3
String 3: F#4
String 2: G3
String 1: C4

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-1 BF#BF#BFF#B B/F# Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second
0 CGCGCF#GC C/G Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second
1 C#G#C#G#C#GG#C# C#/G# Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second

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