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C#G#C#G#C#GG#C# Guitar Tuner

C#G#C#G#C#GG#C# | D♭A♭D♭A♭D♭GA♭D♭ C#/G# Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second - Guitar tuning, chords & scales

Description - C#/G# Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second

Ultra dissonant tuning, great for mathcore!

Tuning Overview: Mathcore Dissonant C#/G# Octave

This is an 8-string Guitar tuning, aptly named "C#/G# octave tuning with flat fifth and minor second". As its original description suggests, it is an "Ultra dissonant tuning, great for mathcore!". This configuration is explicitly designed for extreme sonic textures and aggressive, non-standard harmonic language.

Technical Analysis:

The tuning primarily establishes a foundation of C# and G# across multiple octaves, with the open strings delivering the following notes from lowest to highest pitch:

  • String 8: C2# (Root)
  • String 7: G2# (Perfect Fifth)
  • String 6: C3# (Octave)
  • String 5: G3# (Octave + Perfect Fifth)
  • String 4: C4# (Double Octave)
  • String 3: G3 (Diminished Fifth / Augmented Fourth relative to C#)
  • String 2: G4# (Double Octave + Perfect Fifth)
  • String 1: C5# (Triple Octave)

The core of this tuning's unique character lies in the juxtaposition of C#, G#, and the natural G on the 3rd string. While C# and G# provide a robust power chord framework across many octaves, the G3 introduces a significant tritone (C# to G) or diminished fifth. Furthermore, the close proximity of G (String 3) and G# (String 2) creates a minor second interval, which is highly dissonant and contributes heavily to the "mathcore" sound. This specific cluster (C#-G-G#) is a hallmark of extreme dissonance, ideal for sharp, angular riffs and chaotic harmonic structures rather than traditional melodies.

Chords and Playability:

Due to the high degree of dissonance, conventional open chords are largely unavailable or will sound very tense. However, this tuning excels in:

  • Massive Power Chords: The abundance of C# and G# notes across octaves allows for incredibly thick and resonant C#5 power chords by simply muting or avoiding the 3rd (G natural) string. Barring across the C# and G# strings (e.g., strings 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 2, 1) will yield colossal, octave-rich power chords.
  • Dissonant Clusters: The open G3 string can be intentionally played alongside C# and G# strings to create harsh, grinding, and unpredictable dissonant clusters, perfect for breakdown sections or unsettling harmonic backdrops.
  • Angular Riffing: The non-standard intervals between strings encourage unique fingerings and shapes, facilitating the creation of complex, rhythmically intricate, and angular riffs characteristic of mathcore and progressive metal.
  • Octave Riffing: The numerous C# and G# octaves make it easy to play melodic or rhythmic lines that span multiple octaves, giving a sense of vastness or extreme aggression depending on the context.

How to Tune:

This tuning requires significant adjustments from a standard 8-string setup. Please tune carefully, especially for strings requiring larger semitone changes. Refer to the specific target notes below:

  • String 8 (Lowest): Tune to C2#. Keep as is; no change (0 semitones).
  • String 7: Tune to G2#. Tune up 2 semitones.
  • String 6: Tune to C3#. Tune up 2 semitones.
  • String 5: Tune to G3#. Tune up 4 semitones. Caution: Tuning up by 4 semitones is a significant change; ensure your string gauge can handle the tension.
  • String 4: Tune to C4#. Tune up 4 semitones. Caution: Tuning up by 4 semitones is a significant change; ensure your string gauge can handle the tension.
  • String 3: Tune to G3. Tune up 5 semitones. WARNING: Tuning up by 5 semitones is a very large change. A different, heavier gauge string is strongly advised to prevent breakage and excessive neck tension. Proceed with extreme care.
  • String 2: Tune to G4#. Tune up 1 semitone.
  • String 1 (Highest): Tune to C5#. Tune up 2 semitones.

Always check your guitar's intonation after making significant tuning changes.



Each string's target note and its movement are detailed below:

  • String 8: C2# - Lowest string, remains at its current pitch.
  • String 7: G2# - Tuned up two semitones.
  • String 6: C3# - Tuned up two semitones.
  • String 5: G3# - Tuned up four semitones.
  • String 4: C4# - Tuned up four semitones.
  • String 3: G3 - Tuned up five semitones.
  • String 2: G4# - Tuned up one semitone.
  • String 1: C5# - Highest string, tuned up two semitones.

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-2 BF#BF#BFF#B B/F# Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second
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0 C#G#C#G#C#GG#C# C#/G# Octave Tuning With Flat Fifth And Minor Second

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